Telecommunications Talk Telecommunications Talk    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Two ADSL lines - only one works at a time! Goto page Previous  1, 2          Telecommunications Talk Forum Index -> Broadband View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Andy Pandy Guest Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Re: Two ADSL lines - only one works at a time! "The Natural Philosopher" <a@b.c> wrote in message news:1215873273.26829.0@proxy02.news.clara.net... Quote: Just rewire everything to some new master sockets properly. Its not hard. It is with the amount of extensions I've got. Quote: BT don't really care as long as the wiring is good. What they object to is having to undo customer bodges. Which it seems you have. I have a "BT bodge" by the looks of it. Quote: "When in dubt, rip it out' I have extensively rewuired BT incmings with cat 5 and god knows what..BT's normal response is to say ..'oh dear, you should have used a proper connector block there, I'll just fit that for you: But the problem seems to be on the pole, so its not that thats causing it, and yes a cuppa would be gratefully received mate'. I hope TalkTalk are similar... -- Andy Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Graham J Guest Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject: Re: Two ADSL lines - only one works at a time! "kraftee" <kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote in message news:1MudneSzxuVdeeXVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com... Quote: Graham J wrote: . I think the point is debatable because a modern master socket defines the boundary between the BT responsibility and yours as the housholder for any internal wiring. Sorry to be picky with you G, but that point is no longer true, well maybe for BT but not for Openreach. Anything from the pole onwards could be chargable, dropwire going thru tree in front garden...chargable, going thru tree in next doors garden, not etc. I just can't wait for the arguments to start now they are actually rolling out the external NTEs, it's going to get very...........how does one call it.........interesting. Yet to see anything about a DSL filter to go with it yet though. I take your point, but if the tree in my front garden damages the dropwire I'm sure BT will expect me to ask them to fix it at my cost rather than for me to shin up the pole myself ... What are these external NTEs? Are they waterproof? -- Graham J Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor kraftee Guest Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:38 am    Post subject: Re: Two ADSL lines - only one works at a time! Graham J wrote: Quote: "kraftee" <kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote in message news:1MudneSzxuVdeeXVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com... Graham J wrote: . I think the point is debatable because a modern master socket defines the boundary between the BT responsibility and yours as the housholder for any internal wiring. Sorry to be picky with you G, but that point is no longer true, well maybe for BT but not for Openreach. Anything from the pole onwards could be chargable, dropwire going thru tree in front garden...chargable, going thru tree in next doors garden, not etc. I just can't wait for the arguments to start now they are actually rolling out the external NTEs, it's going to get very...........how does one call it.........interesting. Yet to see anything about a DSL filter to go with it yet though. I take your point, but if the tree in my front garden damages the dropwire I'm sure BT will expect me to ask them to fix it at my cost rather than for me to shin up the pole myself ... What are these external NTEs? Are they waterproof? Supposedly, if fitted correctly the normal ingress water is stopped (all bets are off if you have a flood), In other words if fitted correctly they should be fine, having said that I met my first BT66 jammed between the bottom of a door frame & the ground today so a lot will depend on who's fitting them. The only thing which troubles me is that you require a special test lead to be able to test from the test 'socket' inside so how is the normal man in the street going to do it, yes they'll be able to disconnect the internal wires but as for test to see if he has dial tone etc.......... or should that be ??????????? Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Graham J Guest Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Two ADSL lines - only one works at a time! [snip] Quote: What are these external NTEs? Are they waterproof? Supposedly, if fitted correctly the normal ingress water is stopped (all bets are off if you have a flood), In other words if fitted correctly they should be fine, having said that I met my first BT66 jammed between the bottom of a door frame & the ground today so a lot will depend on who's fitting them. The only thing which troubles me is that you require a special test lead to be able to test from the test 'socket' inside so how is the normal man in the street going to do it, yes they'll be able to disconnect the internal wires but as for test to see if he has dial tone etc.......... or should that be ??????????? What about security? If you have a BT66 fitted what is to stop me coming along and plugging in the (special test) lead and using your phone line? -- Graham J Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Klunk Guest Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: Two ADSL lines - only one works at a time! On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:36:34 +0100, Graham J passed an empty day by writing: Quote: What about security? If you have a BT66 fitted what is to stop me coming along and plugging in the (special test) lead and using your phone line? *ding* the BT network is totally insecure and open to abuse - always has been, always will be. The external NT and it's plug in test jack may make it a little more convenient, but rest assured security is about 0% on the network at large. -- begin oefixed_in_2005.exe Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor kraftee Guest Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject: Re: Two ADSL lines - only one works at a time! Graham J wrote: Quote: [snip] What are these external NTEs? Are they waterproof? Supposedly, if fitted correctly the normal ingress water is stopped (all bets are off if you have a flood), In other words if fitted correctly they should be fine, having said that I met my first BT66 jammed between the bottom of a door frame & the ground today so a lot will depend on who's fitting them. The only thing which troubles me is that you require a special test lead to be able to test from the test 'socket' inside so how is the normal man in the street going to do it, yes they'll be able to disconnect the internal wires but as for test to see if he has dial tone etc.......... or should that be ??????????? What about security? If you have a BT66 fitted what is to stop me coming along and plugging in the (special test) lead and using your phone line? The security cable tie that's what... Yes I know but that's what they tell us. Yet to get my hands on one of the new beasties so am unsure about what 'security' they may have. What I have heard (for what it's worth) is that the BT cabling will behind an plate secured by a security type alen screw (alen key with hole in middle) Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Ivor Jones Guest Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:15 am    Post subject: Re: Two ADSL lines - only one works at a time! In news:_sednaMLeuV_IuLVnZ2dnUVZ8sXinZ2d@bt.com, kraftee <kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> typed, for some strange, unexplained reason: : Graham J wrote: : > [snip] : >>> : >>> What are these external NTEs? Are they waterproof? : >> : >> Supposedly, if fitted correctly the normal ingress water is : >> stopped (all bets are off if you have a flood), In other words if : >> fitted correctly they should be fine, having said that I met my : >> first BT66 jammed between the bottom of a door frame & the ground : >> today so a lot will depend on who's fitting them. The only thing : >> which troubles me is that you require a special test lead to be : >> able to test from the test 'socket' inside so how is the normal : >> man in the street going to do it, yes they'll be able to : >> disconnect the internal wires but as for test to see if he has : >> dial tone etc.......... or should that be ??????????? : > : > What about security? If you have a BT66 fitted what is to stop me : > coming along and plugging in the (special test) lead and using your : > phone line? : : The security cable tie that's what... : : Yes I know but that's what they tell us. Yet to get my hands on one : of the new beasties so am unsure about what 'security' they may have. : What I have heard (for what it's worth) is that the BT cabling will : behind an plate secured by a security type alen screw (alen key with : hole in middle) Drivers for which are available just about everywhere, bought a set myself in Maplins for a fiver. 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